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More Questions About Diebold Voting Machines: Did Hillary Really Win New Hampshire? by Dave Lindorff

More Questions About Diebold Voting Machines
Did Hillary Really Win New Hampshire?

By DAVE LINDORFF

Could someone have messed with the vote in New Hampshire?

That is what some people are wondering, after looking closely at the totals in the votes for surprise Democratic primary victor Hillary Clinton, and for Barack Obama, who placed instead of winning as all the polls had predicted he would. And thanks to candidate Dennis Kucinich, we are likely to find out. Kucinich today filed a request, and a required $2000 fee, to order up a manual recount of the machine ballots cast in the state.

Polls taken as late as the day before the Tuesday vote showed Obama up by 10 to 15 points over Clinton, whom he had just beaten the week before in Iowa, but when the votes were counted, Clinton ended up beating Obama in New Hampshire 39.4 per cent to 36.8 per cent. In a replay of what happened in Ohio in 2004, exit polling reportedly also showed Obama to be winning the New Hampshire primary.

When that's not what happened, shocked polling firms and surprised pundits, all of whom had been expecting a big Obama win, were left stumbling for explanations for the Hillary comeback from an 8 per cent drubbing in Iowa (even the Clinton campaign, whose own internal polling had predicted her defeat, were at a loss). Explanations ranged from her teary eyed final public appearance before primary day and some sexist heckling she had received, to dark talk about a wave of hidden racism in the voting booth.

But there were anomalies in the numbers that have some people suggesting something else: vote fraud.

What has had eyebrows raised is a significant discrepancy between the vote counts done by voting machine, and the ones done by hand.

In New Hampshire, 81 per cent of the voting was done in towns and cities that had purchased optical scan machines from the Diebold Election Systems (now called Premiere Election Solutions), a division of Diebold Corp., a company founded by and still linked to wealthy right-wing investors. In those towns, all voting was done on the devices, called Accuvote machines, which read paper ballots completed by voters who use pens or pencils to fill in little ovals next to the candidate of their choice. The ballots are then fed into, read, and tallied by the machines. The other 19 per cent of voting was done in towns that had opted not to use the machine, and to use hand-counted paper ballots instead.

The machine tally was Clinton 39.6 per cent, Obama 36.3 per cent - fairly close to the final outcome. But the hand-counted ballot count broke significantly differently: Clinton 34.9 per cent, Obama 38.6 per cent.

Could something have happened in those machines to shift some votes away from Obama or some of the other candidates in the race, and over to the Clinton total?

If all the votes cast had split the way the hand counts split, Obama would have won New Hampshire by over 10,000 votes, instead of losing to Clinton by about 5500 votes.

"My suspicion is that nothing untoward happened here," says Doug Jones, a professor of computer sciences at the University of Iowa and a member of the board of examiners that approved the use of the same Diebold optical scanning machines in Iowa. "But at the same time, the Diebold machines are vulnerable to viruses that can be spread through the machines by the PCMCIA memory cards, and there are other things that can go wrong too. I'd be much happier if they had a routine random audit procedure in New Hampshire."

A random audit, he says, would involve doing hand counts of some towns' optical scan ballots, and comparing those results with the results of the machine reading of those same ballots, as recorded election night.

While California does conduct such random audits as a matter of course, most states, including New Hampshire, do not. According to the New Hampshire Secretary of State's office, any recount of ballots would have to be requested by a candidate, and would have to be paid for by the candidate making the request.

An official in the press office of Obama's campaign in Chicago, contacted on Wednesday, claimed not to know about the discrepancy between the machine and hand-counted ballots. She said that there was no plan to call for a hand count of machine ballots.

As Prof. Jones notes, requiring a candidate to initiate any hand count makes such hand counts unlikely, since unless the evidence of vote tampering or fraud is overwhelming, such a call would open the candidate to charges of "poor loser."

Kucinich, in making his recount request, resolved that problem.

There is good reason to be suspicious of the results. The counting of the machine totals, in New Hampshire as in all states using the Diebold machines, is handled by a private contract firm, in this case Massachusetts-based LHS Associates, which controls and programs the machines' memory cards. Several studies have demonstrated the ease with which the memory cards in the Accuvote machines can be hacked, with some testers breaking into the system in minutes.

There are, to be sure, alternative quite innocent possible explanations for the discrepancy between the machine and hand votes for Clinton and Obama. All the state's larger towns and cities, like Nashua, Concord and Portsmouth, have gone to voting machines. While there are many small communities that have also opted for machines, it is almost exclusively the smaller towns and villages across the state that have stayed with hand counts-most of them in the more rural northern part of the state. So if Obama did better than Clinton in the small towns, and Clinton did better in the large ones, that could be the answer.

But that explanation flies in the face of logic, historic voting patterns, and most of the post ­election prognosticating.

If it is true that there was "behind the curtain" racism involved in people saying to pollsters that they were for Obama, while privately voting against him, surely it would be more likely that this would happen in the isolated towns of northern New Hampshire where black people are rarely to be seen. Clinton was also said to have fared better among people with lower incomes-again a demographic that is more prominent in the rural parts of the Granite State. Finally, Obama, in New Hampshire as in Iowa, did better among younger voters, and that is the demographic group that is typically in shorter supply in small towns, where job opportunities are limited. Furthermore, in Iowa, it was in the larger municipalities that Obama fared best, not in the rural towns, so how likely is it that his geographic appeal would be reversed in New Hampshire?

David Scanlan, New Hampshire's deputy secretary of state for elections, whom I contacted Thursday, said that while town election officials are required to do test runs of the Diebold machines in the days before an election, "to make sure that they are reading the ballot markings accurately," and that at that point the machines and the memory cards are sealed until the actual election day, there is no way for his office to independently conduct a post balloting test. The ballot boxes are sealed and the only way they can be opened if for a candidate to request (and pay for) a manual recount, or for a court to order one." Scanlan says that the same is true for the voting machines and the memory cards. While the sealed ballots are retained "for years," however, the memory cards will be back in the hands of the contractor, LHS Associates, in "a few months," to be erased and prepared for use in the general election next November.

Scanlan says that the state legislature is currently considering legislation to provide for routine audits of machines after elections, but that won't help this election cycle.

Scanlan said that because the machines are freestanding, there is no chance of their being hacked from the outside, but critics note that the hacking can be done in advance to the memory cards, which can pass changes to each other like a virus as each is programmed for a particular election.

Jonathan Simon, an attorney and co-founder of the group Election Defense Alliance, says that the vote discrepancies between machine and hand counts in New Hampshire's Democratic primary are troubling, and defy easy explanation.

"The trouble is, whenever you have a surprise result in an election, and it runs counter to the polls, the media always say the problem is the polling, not the counting." But he adds, "The thing is, these things always work in one direction-in favor of the more conservative candidate, and that defies the law of quantum mechanics."

Dave Lindorff is the author of Killing Time: an Investigation into the Death Row Case of Mumia Abu-Jamal. His book of CounterPunch columns titled "This Can't be Happening!" is published by Common Courage Press. Lindorff's newest book is "The Case for Impeachment", co-authored by Barbara Olshansky.

He can be reached at: dlindorff@yahoo.com

10 comments:

perrrfection said...

I'd like to give a women's prospective on the New Hampshire primary...
Let me start off by saying I'm going to be talking about something taboo in America racial and sexual discrimination.. Think of it this way how many people in America are racist versus sexist? So I set up this scenario for you because I have heard the excuse that Obama didn't get votes because of closet racists. (I'm not saying this is not the case in some situations) I just want you to take yourself out of the role of male news anchor for a moment. What percentage of our population hold race as a factor? I think the majority would be white males? Now think of it this way in that same majority given the option to vote for a man or a woman how would they vote? My point is I believe people are more likely to set aside racial divides when it comes to orientation divides.. Men stick together. Now what happened in the New Hampshire primary? Where the polls wrong? I think not. What you have here is this. The media for days was so bias and so discriminating against Clinton it was obvious to all of us. I am an Obama supporter and it was disdaining to me. The media is directly responsible for her win in New Hampshire the coverage on Clinton in the days prior was so dreadful it motivated people in a way no campaign add or slogan could. As I watched the coverage on MSNBC the night of the primary it brought me to tears because I knew right away what was happening and it moved me. I found myself rooting for Hillary and laughing to myself at the denial on Chris Matthews face. Without the medias role there is no doubt in my mind Obama would have won, your polls were NOT wrong! BUT when there is such a blatant attempt to knock a woman down played out by the media, women will do something unprecedented stand together. A proud day to be a woman! It is also humorous that all your political analysts still haven't figured that out. And for all those that might say I am wrong that people will not set aside racial divides when it comes to sexual orientation. I beg you to look at history because in theory African Americans were given the right to vote over 50 years before women were! I hope other women will think of this as they decide to vote. I am taking a long hard look at it now.

Julius Martov said...

Fraudsters' Fraudulent Fraud Claim http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/11/94950/3203/310/434968

Michele Kearney said...

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Can Hillary Cry Her Way Back to the White House?

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When I walked into the office Monday, people were clustering around a computer to watch what they thought they would never see: Hillary Clinton with the unmistakable look of tears in her eyes.

A woman gazing at the screen was grimacing, saying it was bad. Three guys watched it over and over, drawn to the “humanized” Hillary. One reporter who covers security issues cringed. “We are at war,” he said. “Is this how she’ll talk to Kim Jong-il?”

Another reporter joked: “That crying really seemed genuine. I’ll bet she spent hours thinking about it beforehand.” He added dryly: “Crying doesn’t usually work in campaigns. Only in relationships.”

Bill Clinton was known for biting his lip, but here was Hillary doing the Muskie. Certainly it was impressive that she could choke up and stay on message.

She won her Senate seat after being embarrassed by a man. She pulled out New Hampshire and saved her presidential campaign after being embarrassed by another man. She was seen as so controlling when she ran for the Senate that she had to be seen as losing control, as she did during the Monica scandal, before she seemed soft enough to attract many New York voters.

Getting brushed back by Barack Obama in Iowa, her emotional moment here in a cafe and her chagrin at a debate question suggesting she was not likable served the same purpose, making her more appealing, especially to women, particularly to women over 45.

The Obama campaign calculated that they had the women’s vote over the weekend but watched it slip away in the track of her tears.

At the Portsmouth cafe on Monday, talking to a group of mostly women, she blinked back her misty dread of where Obama’s “false hopes” will lead us — “I just don’t want to see us fall backwards,” she said tremulously — in time to smack her rival: “But some of us are right and some of us are wrong. Some of us are ready and some of us are not.”

There was a poignancy about the moment, seeing Hillary crack with exhaustion from decades of yearning to be the principal rather than the plus-one. But there was a whiff of Nixonian self-pity about her choking up. What was moving her so deeply was her recognition that the country was failing to grasp how much it needs her. In a weirdly narcissistic way, she was crying for us. But it was grimly typical of her that what finally made her break down was the prospect of losing.

As Spencer Tracy said to Katharine Hepburn in “Adam’s Rib,” “Here we go again, the old juice. Guaranteed heart melter. A few female tears, stronger than any acid.”

The Clintons once more wriggled out of a tight spot at the last minute. Bill churlishly dismissed the Obama phenom as “the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen,” but for the last few days, it was Hillary who seemed in danger of being Cinderella. She became emotional because she feared that she had reached her political midnight, when she would suddenly revert to the school girl with geeky glasses and frizzy hair, smart but not the favorite. All those years in the shadow of one Natural, only to face the prospect of being eclipsed by another Natural?

How humiliating to have a moderator of the New Hampshire debate ask her to explain why she was not as popular as the handsome young prince from Chicago. How demeaning to have Obama rather ungraciously chime in: “You’re likable enough.” And how exasperating to be pushed into an angry rebuttal when John Edwards played wingman, attacking her on Obama’s behalf.

“I actually have emotions,” she told CNN’s John Roberts on a damage-control tour. “I know that there are some people who doubt that.” She went on “Access Hollywood” to talk about, as the show put it, “the double standards that a woman running for president faces.” “If you get too emotional, that undercuts you,” Hillary said. “A man can cry; we know that. Lots of our leaders have cried. But a woman, it’s a different kind of dynamic.”

It was a peculiar tactic. Here she was attacking Obama for spreading gauzy emotion by spreading gauzy emotion. When Hillary hecklers yelled “Iron my shirt!” at her in Salem on Monday, it stirred sisterhood.
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At Hillary’s victory party in Manchester, Carolyn Marwick, 65, said Hillary showed she was human at the cafe. “I think she’s really tired. She’s been under a lot more scrutiny than the other candidates — how she dresses, how she laughs.”

Her son, David, 35, an actor, said he also “got choked up” when he saw Hillary get choked up. He echoed Hillary’s talking points on the likability issue. “It’s not ‘American Idol.’ You have to vote smart.”

Olivia Cooper, 41, of Concord said, “When you think you’re not going to make it, it’s heart-wrenching when you want something so much.”

Gloria Steinem wrote in The Times yesterday that one of the reasons she is supporting Hillary is that she had “no masculinity to prove.” But Hillary did feel she needed to prove her masculinity. That was why she voted to enable W. to invade Iraq without even reading the National Intelligence Estimate and backed the White House’s bellicosity on Iran.

Yet, in the end, she had to fend off calamity by playing the female victim, both of Obama and of the press. Hillary has barely talked to the press throughout her race even though the Clintons this week whined mightily that the press prefers Obama.

Bill Clinton, campaigning in Henniker on Monday, also played the poor-little-woman card in a less-than-flattering way. “I can’t make her younger, taller or change her gender,” he said. He was so low-energy at events that it sometimes seemed he was distancing himself from her. Now that she is done with New Hampshire, she may distance herself from him, realizing that seeing Bill so often reminds voters that they don’t want to go back to that whole megillah again.

Hillary sounded silly trying to paint Obama as a poetic dreamer and herself as a prodigious doer. “Dr. King’s dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act,” she said. Did any living Democrat ever imagine that any other living Democrat would try to win a presidential primary in New Hampshire by comparing herself to L.B.J.? (Who was driven out of politics by Gene McCarthy in New Hampshire.)

Her argument against Obama now boils down to an argument against idealism, which is probably the lowest and most unlikely point to which any Clinton could sink. The people from Hope are arguing against hope.

At her victory party, Hillary was like the heroine of a Lifetime movie, a woman in peril who manages to triumph. Saying that her heart was full, she sounded the feminist anthem: “I found my own voice.”

Anonymous said...

Dear Perfection,

It's very sad to know that you vote for Clinton because of your pity and want to prove the media wrong. How old are you? It seems like you have never mentally past the rebellious teenage years. This is the future of the country. Years ago Bush claimed "I talked to God". People started voting for him because it was "feeling good", and look at what happened 8 years later. This is not about woman vs man, black vs white. A qualified woman should be elected to be President. Hillary is not qualified. She should not be elected based simply on her qualification.

Michele Kearney said...

The Big Question: How did the polls get the result in New Hampshire so wrong?
By John Rentoul
Published: 10 January 2008
Why are we asking this now?

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americ...icle3324415.ece

Because the UK went to bed on Tuesday night thinking that Barack Obama had pulled off a revolution in American politics. Obama, who had won unexpectedly well in the Iowa caucuses last week, then surged into the lead over Hillary Clinton in the New Hampshire opinion polls. By this week all the polls put him clearly ahead, one by 13 percentage points. Nor was it just the opinion polls and the exit polls in the New Hampshire primary. It was the higher attendance and enthusiasm at Obama's campaign events, compared with what all reporters agreed was a flatter and duller mood at Clinton's. Then we woke yesterday to the news that Clinton had won.

How wrong were the opinion polls?

The average of the polls conducted by seven different organisations on Saturday, Sunday and Monday had Obama on 38 per cent, Clinton on 30 per cent and John Edwards on 18 per cent. When people cast "real votes in real ballot boxes" on Tuesday, Obama was two points lower on 36 per cent, Clinton nine points higher on 39 per cent and Edwards a point off on 17 per cent. That is an average error for the two main candidates of nearly six points. In opinion poll history, that is a clunker. Often in a tight race, an error of two or three points can make all the difference, but getting within two or three points of the actual result is not bad for the fuzzy science of opinion research. The exit polls were wrong too, giving Obama a smaller four-point lead.

Are opinion polls inherently unreliable?

Anyone looking at opinion polls for the first time is taken aback by the apparent flimsiness of the data upon which such confidently-asserted predictions are made. How can you tell what might happen by telephoning 1,000 people at random across the whole country? In the case of state-wide polls in America, the samples are often much smaller. In New Hampshire, CBS News interviewed 323 LVs – "likely voters" – on Saturday and Sunday and put Obama seven points ahead. Rasmussen, on the other hand, interviewed 1,774 LVs. Rasmussen put Obama... seven points ahead. The theory is that, if a population is reasonably homogeneous, a surprisingly small sample, provided it is selected well and the results are adjusted for the known quirks of human behaviour, is adequate.

Could it be sampling error?

Any individual poll is subject to sampling error (it is quaint to British eyes to see the old "plus or minus four points" rubric on American polls – we gave up such pedantry some years ago), but the point about this week is that they all got it wrong. Undue attention was given to a Zogby poll for Reuters and C-Span that gave Obama a 13-point lead, but the other six final polls gave him leads of between five and nine points. However, the accuracy of the Republican primary opinion polls suggests that the pollsters' methods are fundamentally sound.

What about the Republican primary?

There were six polls conducted among likely voters in the Republican contest in the last three days of the campaign. John McCain's average support was 32 per cent; Mitt Romney 28 per cent; Mike Huckabee 12 per cent; Rudy Giuliani 9 per cent; and Ron Paul 8 per cent. McCain emerged five points higher on 37 per cent; Romney four points higher on 32 per cent; Huckabee a point down on 11 per cent; Giuliani and Paul were exactly in line on 9 and 8 per cent respectively. You will notice, as with the Democrats, that the numbers tended to be higher in the actual votes on Tuesday – that is because there were no "don't knows" in the polling booths. But in the Republican race, the shifts did not disrupt the basic pattern. Taking the "don't knows" into account, the opinion polls taken among Republican voters produced an average error between the two front runners of only half of one percentage point (in other words, the polls suggested a McCain margin of victory of four points; it was actually five). That's as spot on as opinion polls can be.

So what happened?

Whatever it was, it was a phenomenon restricted to those New Hampshire voters who took part, or said they were "likely" to take part, in the Democratic primary. Some people on the Democratic side behaved in a way that they have not behaved in recent years, and so the pollsters failed to adjust their numbers to reflect a new phenomenon. It seems likely that these unusual factors reflect the novelties of the candidates in the Democratic race – namely sex and race. There have been women in big-party presidential politics before, but running for only vice-president (Geraldine Ferraro in 1984). And there have been black candidates before, most recently Jesse Jackson (although Colin Powell nearly ran at least once), but never up front with a realistic chance of winning a main party's nomination.

Any theories behind the upset?

Within hours, the internet was awash with possible explanations for the discrepancy. First up was the "politically correct answer" theory: that some people said they would vote for the African-American candidate because they assumed that was what they were expected to say, and then voted for the white woman in the privacy of the booth. It is a version of the "shy Tory" phenomenon over here, when people did not want to admit that they would vote for the unfashionable Conservative Party.

It is questionable whether that is the case with Americans. Obama's supporters are more like Labour supporters in the Tory years – outspoken and enthusiastic, but much less likely to turn out when the time comes. The enthusiasm generated by the Obama campaign affected the answers some people gave to pollsters, but it was Hillary's supporters who were much more likely to turn out. Older people are more likely to vote, and it could be that her campaign energised older women especially in ways that the pollsters did not pick up.

Will future polls be more accurate?

Errors in opinion polls tend to arise when specific groups of voters start to behave differently. Over here, Labour supporters have become less likely than Conservatives to turn out to vote, especially in safe seats. Hence, the opinion polls have tended to overstate Labour's share of the vote for at least the last three general elections. It's doubtful that the voters of New Hampshire's Democratic primary are very different in their electoral attitudes from those of Michigan (15 January) or even South Carolina (26 January) and Florida (29 January). So, given that there is no time for the pollsters to change their methods by then, it might be wise to add nine points to Hillary Clinton's opinion poll numbers, and deduct two from Obama's.

Will the pollsters and pundits get it wrong next time?

Yes...

* Errors in opinion polls tend to be consistent, so they will go on getting it wrong as long as Obama and Clinton are the main candidates

* The time difference will be just as cruel to the British media in Michigan, South Carolina and Florida – and more so in California

* Everyone will overreact and write Obama off completely, when he was only three points behind in one of Clinton's strongest states

No...

* Errors in opinion polls tend to be consistent, so we should be able to make some allowances for biases in the Democratic race

* No one is going to make any outcome-specific generalisations for a long time – not until at least the middle of next week

* Everyone will end up telling us next to nothing about what is likely to happen, thus making the election seem more exciting

Michele Kearney said...

What if the Polls Were Right?
By Jon Cohen

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2...were_right.html

Democratic Pollster Peter Hart has a contrarian view on the latest polling kerfuffle.

Hart, one-half of the polling team behind the NBC-Wall Street Journal poll, this afternoon posted an insightful online comment to a Washington Post article about the failure of New Hampshire polls to predict Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's victory there.

Maybe they weren't wrong after all.

Instead, Hart contends, we've just witnessed a repeat of 1948, the year of the polling industry's most famous failure. That year, public polls stopped collecting data on the presidential election in early- to mid-October, thinking New York Gov. Thomas E. Dewey had the race sewn-up. After Election Day, the Detroit Free Press ran the box-score "Truman 304, Pollsters-0."

In the vastly accelerated political world of 2008, perhaps polling only two, or three or three-and-a-half days of what was a five-day campaign after Iowa was the functional equivalent of stopping polling weeks before the election in 1948.

Unfortunately, data to fully test this hypothesis aren't yet public (AAPOR, the American Association of Public Opinion Research, and others have called on pre-election pollsters to release their data for analysis).

The network exit poll's "time of decision" question is too crude a gauge to offer a clean read on late-deciders. Polls are good at measuring opinions; they are less accurate on assessments of past behavior. And of the question's five options for answers, three were within the week, potentially leading to an overstatement of the percentage of those making up their minds just in advance of elections. (When did you finally decide to read this blog -- just now, in the last 10 seconds, sometime in the last minute, this morning or before that?)

One intriguing tidbit in the available data -- testable with other surveys -- is that comparing exit poll numbers to the last poll from CNN-WMUR-Univ. of New Hampshire shows a much bigger movement to Clinton among women than among men. In the pre-election poll released Sunday, 34 percent of women supported Clinton, while the exit poll showed 46 percent of women voting for the New York senator. The change among men was plus four percentage points.

Is this partial evidence for the "tear" effect so many have latched onto? A return to the "gender gap" polls showed before Iowa and the media storm that followed? As was evident last night, much more data analysis -- and more elections -- await.

Hart's full comment is available below, as is an analysis from GOP pollster Neil Newhouse, who served as the other half of the NBC-Journal polling brain-trust when Bill McInturff worked on the McCain campaign last year. Newhouse foresees a great deal of pollster soul searching in the days ahead. (Yes, we have souls.)

From Peter Hart,"It is deja vu all over again."

The problem with the polling performance in New Hampshire is exactly the same as it was some 60 years ago with the "shocking win" election of Harry S. Truman. The pollsters concluded their polling before the voters made up their mind for the final time. Because this election was but a five day campaign, stopping polling after day 3 (Sunday) was equivalent to the 1948 presidential polling when they concluded in early- to mid-October. In a five day campaign, it was a mistake to think the final decision would be made "so early." It is after all, New Hampshire. The motto of the state should be: "where big mo comes to die." Add Senator Obama's name to a long list to other "sure NH winners" -- George H. W. Bush in 1980, Mondale in 1984, and George W. Bush in 2000.
From Neil Newhouse, "We just didn't see it coming!"

With Hillary Clinton's victory last night, any shred of reputation that pollsters have for being accurate barometers of public opinion goes out the window.
The problem I have with most explanations for why the polling was so far off is that the very same pollsters that blew the call on the Democratic Presidential Primary last night nailed the GOP primary results. So, how could they get one so wrong and the other so right? (Sounds like the beginning of a bad country and western song.)

Wouldn't a late shift toward Hillary have impacted the GOP primary, too?

(And, no, there is no need to call for a federal investigation into Clinton vote-rigging; someone would have come forward by now!)

Actually, we've seen a similar pattern of polling not matching actual vote in a couple of instances involving well-known African American candidates where, in a competitive election, pre-election polling shows African American candidates receiving significantly more white votes than the candidate actually gets on election day. (Though, nothing quite like last night's turn-around.)

The most immediate problem with that theory is that the Iowa polling and caucus results sure didn't seem to reflect that behavior. (There had to be an exception.)

Regardless of the specific reason why the polls were wrong last night, one thing's for sure -- this is an election campaign for the books, providing an abrupt back-to-earth lesson for all of us who study public opinion for a living.

Michele Kearney said...

January 09, 2008
Diebold Strikes Again!
Rick Moran

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/0...ikes_again.html

Is it ever going to be possible to have an election in this country where some idiot lefty doesn't believe that voting machines were hacked and the results tampered with?

Brad Friedman of Bradblog is a dope. While professional pollsters are suprised that the results were so different than predicted, they are quietly going about the business of determining where they went wrong. They are taking a scientific approach to the problem - something that Friedman has rejected in favor of hysteria and paranoia.

Not so our intrepid lefty dolt who is trying to make the case that the counting system used by New Hampshire was using machines manufactured by the evil Diebold Corporation and therefore are automatically suspect.

Diebold, you may recall, became infamous in Ohio during the 2004 election when some on the left tried to prove that the company helped Republicans steal the election. And now, apparently, the company has switched allegiances and is working for the Clintons and the Democrats:


I'm not sure why Obama would have conceded so soon, given the virtually inexplicable turn of events in New Hampshire tonight.

What's going on here? Before proceeding, I recommend you read the third section of the post I just ran an hour or so ago, concerning the way the ballots are counted in New Hampshire, largely on Diebold optical-scan voting systems, wholly controlled and programmed by a very very bad company named LHS Associates.

Those Diebold op-scan machines are the exact same ones that were hacked in the HBO documentary, Hacking Democracy. See the previous report, as I recommend, which also includes a video of that hack, and footage of the guy who runs LHS Associates.

That said, the the pre-election pollster's numbers (NOTE: that's not Exit Polls, but Pre-Election Polls!) were dead-on, for the most part, on the Republican side, as well as on the Democratic side. Except in the do-or-die (for Hillary) Clinton v. Obama race. I'm watching MSNBC right now, and they all seem to agree that the results, for the moment, defy explanation.

I concur.

Bradblog is no fly by night website. It is one of the top political blogs on the left. For any sane, rational person to jump to the conclusion that the vote was rigged based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever is astonishingly stupid except that evil Diebold is involved and that the pre-election polls were so wildly wrong.

As for the latter, let's wait and see what the professionals come up with on why they missed the race so badly. As for the former, it is commentary like this that gives internet journalists and pundits a bad smell and denigrates the real investigative work of others.

Michele Kearney said...

Alarms Should Go Off Whenever the Discrepancies Between the "Official" Results and the Polls Can't Be Explained

by andi novick Page 1 of 4 page(s)

http://www.opednews.com


http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_an...ould_go_off.htm




As we witness the 'unprecedented', 'unexplainable', 'extraordinary', and while it is rarely pointed out in main stream media, 'impossible' discrepancies between polling results and the official tallies produced by New Hampshire's Diebold paper ballot optical scanners, I wish to remind those who may not have been paying as much attention in past years, of the pattern we are witnessing. Zogby predicted a 42-29 sweep for Obama over Hillary. Zogby's polling was right-on for the other races. What could possibly account for such an unbelievable discrepancy?
We have no idea what happened in NH because most of the paper ballots in NH are counted on optical scanners, in secret by Diebold! We do know that where Hillary's ballots were hand counted, she lost, but where Deibold counted, she won, http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_ro...hire_electi.htm.

But we don't have all the information that might explain this latest improbable discrepancy and we will never know if the elections reflect the will of the voters so long as we are forced to vote on proprietarily controlled machines, which have been shown to be as hackable as they're unreliable.


Two years ago I wrote the article below. I republish it here with highlighting relating to the bright red flags that the US media continues to ignore and this quote from an article by Thom Hartmann:

Perhaps, after a half-century of fine-tuning exit polling to such a science that it's now used to verify if elections are clean in Third World countries, it really did suddenly become inaccurate in the United States in the past few years and just won't work here anymore. Perhaps it's just a coincidence that the sudden rise of inaccurate exit polls happened around the same time corporate-programmed, computer-controlled, modem-capable voting machines began recording and tabulating ballots.

The Consequences of Irresponsible Media:
AMERICANS HAVE LOST THE RIGHT TO VOTE *


If we had a responsible media it would be reminding us daily that this country was founded on the wisdom that a democracy can only survive as long as the open market place of ideas is protected. People must be well-informed in order to make decisions about those they’ve entrusted to represent their interests. Our ability to continue to exercise control over our government is dependent upon our ability to consent or to withhold consent through our vote. Once we lose control of our vote, the very essence of our democracy is undermined:

"Unless the mass retains sufficient control over those entrusted with the powers of their government, these will be perverted to their own oppression, and to the perpetuation of wealth and power in the individuals and their families selected for the trust." —Thomas Jefferson

"Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." – The Declaration of Independence

Today millions of Americans have already lost control of their ability to cast a vote for the candidates of their choice and hence we no longer have a government elected by the majority of the people. Regardless of what proof we are lacking, by design, it is indisputable that no one voting on an electronic voting machine knows whether the computer cast their vote as selected or altered it, intentionally or unintentionally. But what we do know is that in the past 6 years, the evidence that millions of votes were not cast as intended is staggering. We have already witnessed the devastating consequences of having lost our vote. We were unable to prevent the Legislature from being taken over, the Executive from staying in power and the concomitant disaster of the Judiciary. The consequences were predictable and indeed predicted:

"[We] should look forward to a time, and that not a distant one, when corruption in this as in the country from which we derive our origin will have seized the heads of government and be spread by them through the body of the people; when they will purchase the voices of the people and make them pay the price. Human nature is the same on every side of the Atlantic and will be alike influenced by the same causes." — Thomas Jefferson, 1782

Once we lost our independent press in service to the people, we lost the ability to know that we’d lost control to elect or vote out the government. How could most of us have know when "Never has there been an administration so disciplined in secrecy, so precisely in lockstep in keeping information from the people at large.....Never has so powerful a media oligopoly ....been so unabashed in reaching, like Caesar, for still more wealth and power. Never have hand and glove fitted together so comfortably to manipulate free political debate, sow contempt for the idea of government itself, and trivialize the people’s need to know." — Bill Moyers, The Future of the Media

If we had responsible media we would have been able to connect the dots and see the emerging pattern: First Florida in 2000; then the 2002 senatorial races delivering the Legislature to the Republicans; then the 2004 election. The increased use of electronic voting systems is curiously proportional to the declining reliability of exit polls, still viewed as highly reliable everywhere --except here. Electronic voting is part of a larger plan to secure one party rule permanently. The loss of our constitutionally guaranteed free press has been an accomplice. Still not there? Consider this:

The 2002 Congressional Elections:

With Republican control only two seats away, the 2002 senate races were hard fought; the "upsets" extraordinary. Right up to election day public opinion polls (Zogby and Harris, for eg. were within a ½% point margin of error in 2000 and previous elections) had predicted Democrats winning in numerous key battleground states. But then unexplained last minute swings resulted in all of those races going to the Republicans. The polls were somehow all "wrong". Remarkably these last minute improbable swings appear to have been concentrated in critical senate races (Georgia and Minnesota), thus sealing Republican control of the Senate.

–In Minnesota, Senator Paul Wellstone, was leading by 5 points when he was killed in a small plane crash less than two weeks before the election. The situation was eerily reminiscent of the fatal plane crash that killed senate candidate Gov. Mel Carnahan, also within a few weeks of that election. The Republicans still couldn’t get their man in though; Ashcroft lost to the deceased Carnahan. But that was in 2000. Two years later we have more electronic machines counting the vote (Diebold and ES&S machines were used in 2/3s of the counties in the state) and Norm Coleman (with his100% approval rating from the Christian Coalition) beats Wellstone’s replacement, former VP Walter Mondale, even though Mondale had retained the 5 point lead going into the election. When the computerized machines were done counting the vote a few days later somehow Coleman had beat Mondale by 50 to 47 percent, a statistically remarkable 8 point swing!

– In Georgia, polls going into the election showed Dem. Senator Max Cleland with a 5% lead over Rep. Saxby Chambliss (who also had a 100% approval rating from the Christian Coalition). Cleland lost to Chambliss 46 to 53 %, an incredible last-minute 12 point swing . And in the governorship race, polls right up to the election showed Roy Barnes, the incumbent Democratic governor, leading by 11 points. Amazingly Barnes lost the governorship to the Republican, Sonny Perdue, 46 to 51 per cent, a swing of 16 percentage points! The press failed to point out that Georgia had became the first state in the country to conduct an election entirely with touch screen voting machines and that the entire election was run, not by the government, but by Diebold.

Michele Kearney said...

Concerning exit polls, this is Robert Novak's take. Now I would always advise people to take Robert No Fact's stuff with a bit of caution, but I would think that he is probably telling the truth here, as I don't think he has a dog in this hunt, and that this is the kind of thing that shouldn't be too hard to check out.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...id=opinionsbox1

The Clintons' One-Two Punch

By Robert D. Novak
Thursday, January 10, 2008; Page A21

Late on Tuesday afternoon, when exit polls indicated Sen. Barack Obama would defeat Sen. Hillary Clinton in the New Hampshire primary, there was palpable relief from many Democrats -- including some avowed supporters of Clinton's presidential candidacy -- that the country soon would be finished with not only the Bushes but also the Clintons. Four hours later came evidence of the political folly in underestimating the former president and his wife.

Those exit polls were so wrong because they grossly understated the female vote in New Hampshire. Had the turnout of women there, which constituted an unprecedented 57 percent of the Democratic vote, been plugged in to exit results, a two-percentage-point Clinton victory would have been forecast. The unexpected female support in turn can be attributed to the Clinton style, which may not be pretty but is effective. Hillary Clinton's tears evoked sympathy for her, and Bill Clinton's sneers generated contempt for Obama.

That is a good lesson for Republican strategists fretting about the difficulty of running against a fresh face such as Obama and hoping for Clinton instead. It strengthens the case for Sen. John McCain, who after New Hampshire is the Republican front-runner. The man who spent six years in a communist prison and has been abused and reviled by Washington's K Street power brokers may be the only Republican who can cope with what the Clintons would throw at him.

It is difficult to exaggerate the funereal tone inside the Clinton camp on primary day in New Hampshire. Sen. Clinton's campaigning there after her third-place Iowa finish was uninspired and uninspiring. Even her husband seemed to lose his famous vibrancy. One Democratic old pro who supports her compared the atmosphere to the last days of Edmund Muskie's failed candidacy in 1972. Expectations of a double-digit defeat Tuesday led to speculation of at least a "relaunched" post-New Hampshire campaign and even a withdrawal before a possible embarrassment in her home-state New York primary Feb. 5.

With that background, Sen. Clinton's lachrymose complaint in New Hampshire on Monday that "this is very personal for me" was widely compared to Muskie's crying jag in Manchester 36 years ago, which began his downfall. But whereas Muskie's tears were involuntary, only the naive can believe Clinton was not artfully playing for sympathy from her sisters. It worked.

Bill Clinton's accompanying belittling of Obama as unqualified ("the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen") was similarly regarded within the party as a serious blunder. That indeed was the reaction from the Obama camp. Obama himself was condescending about his powerful detractor: "I understand he's feeling a little frustrated right now." In fact, an attack by so powerful and popular a Democratic icon should have been taken seriously by the neophyte candidate.

In New Hampshire during the run-up to the primary, several prominent Republicans expressed to me their regret that they would not have the opportunity to run against a tired, vulnerable Hillary Clinton and had no strategy whatever for contesting a fresh, appealing Obama. An exception to that mind-set is Sen. Lindsey Graham, a longtime McCain adviser, who feels Clinton is not only more experienced but would be a far more formidable opponent than Obama.

McCain, though far from beloved in his party's ranks, is perhaps better equipped to withstand the battering he would receive from the Clintons and to respond in kind. In the intense four days of New Hampshire campaigning following the Iowa caucuses, McCain was the subject of unremitting attack from Mitt Romney because of his support for President Bush's immigration reform. He was able to turn aside those attacks by effectively denying that he sought amnesty for illegal aliens.

The lesson of New Hampshire for Obama's campaign should be that rock-star popularity is not sufficient to take on the Clintons, who for a decade have given no quarter to their political foes. When it seemed that Obama would win in New Hampshire, the Clinton camp prepared an attack strategy against him. Since Obama is favored in the next big primary test, in South Carolina on Jan. 26, he can expect more of the same ahead.

¿ 2008 Creators Syndicate Inc.

Anonymous said...

I think it's more like this: 22-yr old dude gets a cold call asking who he's for. He sez "Obama!! Woohoo!" and then on Jan 8, stays home smoking weed instead of voting.

BTW, I'm an Obama supporter, so I don't mean this as an anti-Obama remark. Just that Obama has more young supporters, and young people tend to be more irresponsible with their time.